recently read the article in the December 2003 Monitor entitled:
Religion and spirituality in the treatment room
Some psychologists think incorporating spirituality into therapeutic
environments could bring new treatment options into the limelight.
BY KAREN KERSTING
Print version: page 40,
I thought you might like to consider having Bryan & Lisa
Bazler, authors of Psychology Debunked as guests on your show.
They most recently were guests of Ingrid Schleuter's Crosstalk,
I must say that I am most astonished that Christian Psychologists
would not already know that Psychology ALREADY IS SPIRITUAL at
its very roots, but that its founders and the foundation itself
is a principality with a worldview which is antithetical to the
Gospel and Scripture. In this regard, I would like to respond
to the article in my book review below of Psychology Debunked,
as well as in my debate with Christian Psychologist, Dr. John
Stoll who promote the idea that marriage and life can be santified
by the use of the Carl Jung based Briggs-Meyers Personality Profiler,
Jung, himself, being another founder of modern psychology derived
his psychology from divination, astrology, necromancy, taoism,
gnosticism, and a belief in evolution.
- James Sundquist
- Rock Salt Publishing
Book Review by James Sundquist
I just could not wait to read and review PSYCHOLOGY DEBUNKED
after hearing its authors, former psychotherapist Lisa Bazler
& Ryan Bazler, in their hour-long insightful interview on
Chuck Crismier's VIEWPOINT Radio Program on the Internet. Upon
reading the book, I would mark five stars for every stellar point
they made. I kept wondering, will they cover this issue?
Or, I hope they don't say something doctrinally unsound!
Well I was not disappointed. Virtually every question that you
might pose regarding the viability of psychology was answered.
And every question whether it offers any hope to Christians was
In reviewing the book, I first simply wanted to list all of
the great specifics why psychology is not compatible with Christianity,
why it is not science, and why there is no pathology to support
it. But I love to talk in pictures or parables. Then it struck
me. I saw a picture of a huge ball of yarn which had been completely
tangled, mangled, gnarled, and knotted. I thought to myself,
who can possibly untangle this ball of yarn? This ball of yarn
is Psychology. Well, the authors have managed to do just that.
They dismantled and removed every knot in the ball of yarn. What
is even more amazing is that when they finally completed their
mission of unraveling the ball of yarn, the yarn had completely
vanished. There remained no yarn left to make anything...not
enough for a sweater, not enough even for a hot pad, and certainly
not enough to build the emperor's new clothes. Tragically, the
world and the Church is so smitten by this ball of yarn, they
continue to knit imaginary garments for the emperor and all mankind.
But there is no garment for the king and there are no real garments
for anyone to wear with this ball of yarn.
This book is so easy to understand, but that should not be
surprising. The Scripture tells us to not stray away from the
simplicity of Christ. Psychology has complicated and knotted
the yarn. When the authors finishing demolishing every argument
that defends psychology, it was so obvious and simple, a child
could understand it. But that should not be surprising either,
since the Lord also tells us to come as a child...in fact it
is the only way we can come. Just some of the examples the authors
make as clear as the water that flows down from the Oregon mountains
is that the Bible teaches that fear of the Lord is the beginning
of wisdom. Psychology counsels no fear of the Lord at anytime
in any of its therapies, let alone at the beginning. So there
is no wisdom in it. The Bible teaches that there is body, soul,
and spirit; psychology says there is only the body and the soul.
The Bible teaches us that it is Holy Spirit that will lead us
in all truth and that it is sharper than a two edged sword, dividing
even the soul from spirit. Psychology doesn't even believe in
the Holy Spirit. The Bible teaches us about our eternal destiny.
Psychology offers no hope for eternity. The Bible teaches us
to lay up for our selves treasures in heaven. Psychology offers
no concept of heaven to lay up your treasures for. The Bible
says seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things (our
needs) will be added unto us. Psychology doesn't seek first the
Kingdom of God, in fact it never seeks the Kingdom of God. The
Bible teaches that our help comes from the Lord. Psychology tells
us our help comes from one or more of unproven theories and tens
of thousands of psychotherapists whose ideas were drawn from
paganism, divination, astrology, humanism, and evolution. The
Bible teaches that being lovers of selves is mankind's problem.
Psychology teaches that being lovers of selves is the solution.
Bible teaches that we can come freely to drink the waters of
life. Psychology charges for it. The Bible offers the opportunity
of becoming a new man in Christ. Psychology offers an improved
or even damaged version of the old man. The Bible teaches that
our strength is perfected in weakness and that in suffering,
sin loses its power. Psychology teaches us how to balance our
strengths and weaknesses with personality profiles derived from
paganism and divination. The Bible esteems the contrite and broken
spirit. Psychology esteems self-esteem. The Bible teaches us
to rejoice in the suffering or being persecuted with Christ to
produce character and overcome the world. Psychology has no interest
in Christ's suffering, our suffering with Christ, or sees any
redemptive value in his shed blood. The Bible teaches that Jesus
Christ believed in demon possession and delivered those possessed.
Psychology teaches that there is no such thing as demon possession...so
there is nothing to be delivered from. The Bible tells us how
to be blessed in the Beatitudes. Psychology doesn't even comprehend
blessing, so it can not offer anyone a blessing because it omits
the person required to administer these blessings, that is Jesus
Christ. The Bible tells us we can't produce the fruit of the
spirit which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control without abiding in
the vine which is Jesus Christ himself. Psychology attempts to
bear this fruit by abiding in the teaching of such founders as
Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud who opposed Christianity!
The Bible teaches that there are primarily three things that
are required of every Christian: (1) Salvation, (2) Sanctification,
and (3) Carry out the Great Commission so that others may receive.
Psychology can't offer Salvation, Sanctification, and is unable
to and does not even pretend to offer the Great Commission in
order that others might be saved and sanctified.
So Christians, Pastors, and every Christian Psychotherapist
needs to be asking the question: So then why are we offering
Psychology? The authors answer this question so thoroughly,
that it should be required reading in every Christian College
and Seminary (and that is most of them) that teach Psychology
as a valid tool for sanctification and training in righteousness
and helping people. The Church needs to wake up too and stop
integrating and mixing the Gospel with the Religion of Psychology
in its programs too! You can not serve two masters! Choose today
whom you will follow -- the Mighty Counselor and Intercessor,
or your flawed psychotherapist as your counselor! Psychology
is based on myths while Paul in his Second Epistle to Timothy
said to turn aside from myths! As Solomon said, there is nothing
new under the sun, and Psychology, showing it true colors, draws
its ideas from the foundation right back to the Garden of Eden.....
someone else made me do it! Adam and Eve could not
blame their problems on their environment or their ancestors.
Psychology implies that everyone is a victim and no one is a
sinner (no one is guilty)! Lisa & Ryan hit the nail on the
head with this book because they lead you right back to The Book
for the right answers to all of your problems. They list every
major reason a person goes to a psychotherapist, then give you
every Scripture that will really solve your problems and your
imaginary problems...and your life. The authors prove that Psychology
offers no help to the secular world which is not Christian and
it certainly does not offer any hope or help to a Christian.
Therefore, I must give it my highest rating and commendation...fives
stars. I would recommend it to anyone who truly wants to be delivered
For your Information,
Psychology Debunked can be purchased at the author's website: