Centering Down, Is This Biblical?
Dear Dr. Stoll,
I trust that you have had a chance to review my last commentary.
This is more or a less an epilogue to the discussion of Centering.
I have since learned the centering is a key term
invoked and promoted by Thomas Keating and Basil Pennington,
as part of centering prayer which is at the heart
of contemplative prayer. Sound good? Just a better version of
Biblical prayer and meditation? Not when you discover that this
centering is a blended Christianity with Eastern mysticism. Your
own mentor, Morton Kelsey, himself mentored by Carl Jung, stated:
You can find most of the New Age practices in the depth
of Christianity...I believe that the Holy One lives in
every soul. (Source A Time of Departing, Ray
Yungen, page 67, Lighthouse Trails Publishing Company, 2002.)
So it is not entirely out of order that I would challenge you
regarding the use of this term, as it is now been integrated
into Christian. Centering Prayer was further endorsed by Brennan
Here is another one of your quotes:
"The study of psychology as a scientific field poses
problems for the Christian, yet when integrated with the psychological
principles as demonstrated in God's Word, it offers the opportunity
of opining new insights regarding Christian experiences and understanding
of the Biblical truths. An illustration may serve to help underscore
this principle. The sulfa drug does not kill the germ. It dissolves
the hard protective coating around the germ so that the white
corpuscles are able to kill the germ. In a similar fashion, psychology
can provide the tools used by God to penetrate more efficiently,
and dissolve the defensive shell that people use to insulate
themselves from Biblical truths, and from their fellowmen. When
this shell is broken, the Spirit of God is able to perform His
work in their lives. Each problem raised by life and psychology
has its answer in the Word of God. These answers should be sought
and found, and when they are, along with personal application,
the normal spiritual life that God has for each of us will become
So, psychology can break the shell, so that the world, as
with CGM can break down the defenses so that people will seek
after God? What an anemic view of the power of God's word. The
Bible is not able to pierce or dissolve these defenses, but Psychology
is? Psychology is sharper than a two-edged sword separating even
soul from spirit? I thought only the Scriptures could do that
via the Holy Spirit. The word of God itself does the penetration
and is certainly sharper than psychology. In fact, psychology
has no blade at all and penetrates nothing to produce righteousness.
Psychology and Carl Jung is what dissolves the protective coating
of the armor of God so that the Christian can no longer ward
off the fiery darts of the enemy. In response to Dr. Stoll's
proposition that Psychology can dissolve the shell that insulates
people from Biblical truths, here is what the Scriptures say:
"Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their
heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men
[and] brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:37-38
If Dr. Stoll is right, When 3,000 who were saved asked "What
shall we do?" Shouldn't Peter have said. "Take a Personality
Profile Test? Or, many of you standing here did not
get saved by hearing the Scriptures, so I would now like to educate
you to some of the hundreds of theories of psychology in order
to break down those barriers that the Scriptures themselves were
unable to do, so that the Gospel can penetrate more of you than
the Scriptures by themselves were able to do. And for those of
you who did get saved. Now is the time to get sanctified. But
once again, Scripture is good as far as it goes, but we really
need an additional tool, we need a Personality Profile. In many
circles this will become known as MBTI.
Then in Acts 2:42
"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine
Would then read: "and they continued stedfastly in the
apostles doctrine and Carl Jung occultic teachings and Gnosticism."
Act 4:4 "Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed;
and the number of the men was about five thousand."
I would ask Dr. Stoll "Howbeit that if hearing the word
(Scripture) caused five thousand to believe, why does he state
that Psychology can break them down to receive Scripture and
be saved?" Does the Bible say Psychology can prick the heart,
or does it say hearing the Word pricked their hearts?
Rom 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be
ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove
what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world,
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will
be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing
and perfect will." NIV
This is an amazing statement! You can't even test what is
God's will until you renounce the patterns and principles of
this world (Jung, Kelsey, Psychology). HOW ABOUT THAT!!! Again
I say "then"!!!!!!